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14th Street--Discussion of Track 8

Last post Mon, Feb 22 2010, 4:23 AM by Chinthe. 157 replies.
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  •  Mon, Oct 13 2008, 6:58 PM 275179 in reply to 275029

    Re: 14th Street--Discussion of Track 8

    well in the song he says I'm coming back home tomorrow to 14th street. I always assumed NYC
    "Help! Piano! I'm being strangled by a guitar!" -Ruf

  •  Tue, Oct 14 2008, 7:20 AM 275180 in reply to 275029

    Re: 14th Street--Discussion of Track 8

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    crazystairs said:
    well in the song he says I'm coming back home tomorrow to 14th street. I always assumed NYC




    me too
    I cook with wine every night. Sometimes I add it to the food.
  •  Tue, Oct 21 2008, 1:03 PM 275181 in reply to 275029

    Re: 14th Street--Discussion of Track 8

    It's one of my favourite Rufus' songs.

    I have some questions.

    1. How do you think what does it mean "Home of the brave and of the weak"?

    I asked orlanda and that's what she wrote

    "I think it's one of those lines everyone can give their own meaning to. I can give it two meanings.

    Rufus talked about 14th street as his 'return after rehab' song. To me these lines:

    You walked me down 14th Street
    For the doctor to meet after thoughts of the grave
    In the home of the brave and of the weak


    are about going there. I always thought 'the home of the brave and of the weak' was such a wonderful description of people going through therapy. You have to be brave to do so, admit you are not well and dig deep into your soul. That takes courage. And it makes you feel weak. I guess you could also describe people with an addiction as weak - needing help, or having needed the substance they are addicted to. But now they are brave because they're facing up to it. Which makes them feel weaker than when they were using the substance, perhaps.

    Well that's a nice ramble. All to say I like that one line.

    If you interpret it this way the lines says 'I was going to meet the doctor for therapy, or rehab'

    But

    Home of the brave is in the USA national Anthem too.

    This line:

    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    Is at the end of each verse.

    So I guess it is also a reference to the USA. Maybe something like 'There aren't only brave people here, also people who need help?' Or 'I was needing help?' Or 'I was surrounded by 'the brave and the weak' as a reference to nightlife in the city?"

    What do you think?

    2. You got my lost brother's soul, my dear mother's eyes,
    A brown horse's mane, and my uncle's name


    Did I dream that or does Loudon have a brother?
    Can Rufus call 'uncle' Anna's (McGarrigle) husband?
    ...closing my eyes I hear the sea...
  •  Fri, Feb 12 2010, 8:08 PM 608895 in reply to 275103

    Re: 14th Street--Discussion of Track 8

    So.

    I was walking to uni today, and I had my ipod on random.

    And this came on.

    It's been a while since I listened to it. And I used to identify with it, a lot.

    And everything today was just right. Again! All of it! The lyrics, his voice, the bass, the horns, the everything.

    And when the banjo kicked in? Gave me goosebumps all over. Again. 

    Ah, Kate! Ah, Rufus! 


    How fickle my heart and how woozy my eyes
    I struggle to find any truth in your lies
  •  Sat, Feb 13 2010, 4:02 AM 608967 in reply to 608895

    Re: 14th Street--Discussion of Track 8

    I love this song very much! On MAL!!! DVD I watched it lots of times and never enough!
  •  Sun, Feb 21 2010, 7:55 PM 610771 in reply to 608967

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    I miss this song....

    I'm just bumping this thread to get rid of the damn spambots! Angry Super Angry 


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    Why can't I sleep with my eyes open?
  •  Sun, Feb 21 2010, 8:02 PM 610775 in reply to 610771

    Re: 14th Street--Discussion of Track 8

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  •  Mon, Feb 22 2010, 4:23 AM 610801 in reply to 610771

    Re: 14th Street--Discussion of Track 8

    PocketPenniless:

    I miss this song....

    One day I'll catch a pick!  One day ................................................................... Smirk Grin


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